tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309655433066745389.post6607182042979255984..comments2022-12-25T08:38:32.872-06:00Comments on watchman2009: Filled With the Spirit, Speaking in Tonguescliff hilberthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11717833330931982044noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309655433066745389.post-49334299683718554312010-11-14T22:50:17.292-06:002010-11-14T22:50:17.292-06:00I have experienced the groaning with sounds too de...I have experienced the groaning with sounds too deep to be uttered... it feels like my soul is cracking, but when it is done, there is such a relief. What glory to share in the Spirit's burden.Sis Cathianhttp://cathian.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309655433066745389.post-85899440801646201822010-11-13T14:24:53.035-06:002010-11-13T14:24:53.035-06:00What I continue to find so interesting is the brea...What I continue to find so interesting is the breadth of knowledge and experience that others have that adds to and deepens my own knowledge of the things of the Lord.cliff hilberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11717833330931982044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309655433066745389.post-51244128672263558712010-11-13T14:14:57.263-06:002010-11-13T14:14:57.263-06:00There have times where I have experienced "gr...There have times where I have experienced "groanings that cannot be uttered". These were when I was in deep prayer either for myself or someone else. It isn't something that a person can do themselves. These groanings were intense & usually came with weeping. As the scripture says, I couldn't "utter" the words myself...they came up out of my spirit. Breakthroughs come when a person experiences intercession on this level:<br /><br />Romans 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helps our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.<br />Rom 8:27 And he that searches the hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because he makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God.<br />Rom 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.Revival-Firehttp://www.revivalfirechurch.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309655433066745389.post-75503376748444860022010-11-13T13:19:57.159-06:002010-11-13T13:19:57.159-06:00This is an e-mail from a dear sister-in-Christ who...This is an e-mail from a dear sister-in-Christ who gave me permission to re-print it here.<br /><br />"On the few occasions I've experienced the groaning in the spirit was when I was the recipient of a hurtful situation. Because of the depth of hurt, the heaviness of the heart, crying didn't seem nearly enough. I wanted to express words but couldn't. Even if I could, I was at a loss for what to say and how to say it. If at anytime I said anything, it was repeating the words 'Father' or 'Jesus'. That wasn't the time to speak in tongues either. The Holy Spirit interceded for me, manifested in deep groanings until I received comfort.<br /><br /><br />The word 'groaning' is mentioned twice in the Bible. The word groaned', once.<br /><br />1) When Stephen was witnessing before the Jewish council, of God plan of deliverence, from their forefathers unto the Gentiles.<br /><br />Acts 7:34<br />34 I have seen, I have seen the affliction of my people which is in Egypt, and I have heard their groaning, and am come down to deliver them. And now come, I will send thee into Egypt.<br /><br />The Israelites were in Egypt for 400 years. That's 400 years of groaning under the hands of their oppressors! Most likely in the flesh but I wouldn't rule out the possibility of the spirit either.<br /><br />2) At Lazarus' tomb<br /><br />John 11: 33<br />33 When Jesus therefore saw her weeping, and the Jews also weeping which came with her, he groaned in the spirit, and was troubled,<br /><br />John 11:38<br />38 Jesus therefore again groaning in himself cometh to the grave. It was a cave, and a stone lay upon it.<br /><br />The death of a beloved one, the weeping, sorrowing and grieving atmosphere around Him stir Jesus deeply. He groaned in the spirit and what words came forth from Him?<br /><br />Where have ye laid him?<br />Where is the body now?<br /><br />Jesus wept.<br /><br />In the garden of Gethsemane, possible groaning in the spirit may have taken place.<br /><br />Matt 26:36-38<br />36 Then cometh Jesus with them unto a place called Gethsemane, and saith unto the disciples, Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder.<br /><br />37 And he took with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be sorrowful and very heavy.<br /><br />38 Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.<br /><br /><br />I can only say that this type of groaning manifests itself in very distressing times. Now I know from your post everyone doesn't experience it.<br /><br /><br />1) Because of the different levels in the spirit realm and whereas we are still earthly beings living in a natural realm, there are times the Holy Spirit has to take over because of our infirmities.<br /><br />2) Anything manifesting in this realm first has its beginnings in the spirit realm. Whether good or bad. The heavenly language of tongues seems to bring about a quicker result(s) than an earthly language.cliff hilberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11717833330931982044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309655433066745389.post-24355254877383255132010-11-12T21:11:53.054-06:002010-11-12T21:11:53.054-06:00I seen these things in the churches up until 1995 ...I seen these things in the churches up until 1995 when I left the system... <br /><br />Name it and claim it, prosperity preachers and teachers fleecing the flock, pastors building themselves their own small kingdoms, making merchandise of that which was freely given and teaching perverse and false teachings and doctrines...<br /><br />So many people get sucked into these things that tickle their ears... <br /><br />I seen this several times in these churches I attended... someone comes off the street and desire to know and learn about God... These false teachers get a hold of them and bring them in... The person is honestly seeking and convicted of their sin... most cases their state with their sin is not even brought up or brought attention to... instead, focused on what God can do for them and how they, if they can follow a certain ritual or pattern, be 'blessed' and be 'rich' and acquire material wealth and goods while here... while their state dealing with sin in their lives is not properly addressed... no thought of the Lamb of God removing one's sins, yet emphasis is about doing something based on works and getting 'blessed' with material things in the here and now...Delnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2309655433066745389.post-57418240907872178712010-11-12T17:43:28.164-06:002010-11-12T17:43:28.164-06:00Ah yes Cliff, I hear you. I have been in churche...Ah yes Cliff, I hear you. I have been in churches where an individual spoke in tongues and then interpreted it. <br /><br />I see the same dissension among the brethren regarding individuals dreams. Are they true or not? Then the fighting begins. Absolutely pitiful.<br /><br />Our enemy is prowling constantly seeking to steal, kill, destroy and we are striving we each other.<br /><br />Peace and blessings to you I have missed your posts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com